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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Luisa and I had a meeting with Fran & co
of Anne Thorn architects today to look at their new thoughts on the Lordship <span
class=SpellE>Rec</span> Environment Centre.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As time is getting short
now in terms of cementing our plans for Planners, Match Funders and the HLF etc.</span></font></span><font
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:navy'> I have
suggested that they start their consultation by presenting their ideas at the
next Lordship <span class=SpellE>Rec</span> Users Forum meeting on Monday - and
this they would very much like to do that if that is O.K. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can you let us know a.s.a.p. if it could
be put on the agenda, - possibly as part of the update report on the
Environment Centre?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Martin B.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> friends-bounces@lordshiprec.org.uk
[mailto:friends-bounces@lordshiprec.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>dave<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 January 2009 18:05<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> friends@lordshiprec.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Friends] LRUF meeting on
Monday (12.1.09) + Mins of last meeting (24.11.08)</span></font><span
lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=5 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:18.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Lordship Rec Users Forum<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-weight:
bold'>Next Meeting - Monday 12th January 2009 <br>
</span></font>at 6.30pm in the Broadwater Farm Community Centre.<br>
<br>
</b><i><span style='font-style:italic'>All organisations concerned to see a
better future for the park are invited to attend.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></i><b><font size=4><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-weight:bold'>Minutes
of the LRUF Meeting - Monday 24<sup>th</sup> November 2008<br>
</span></font></b>@ the Broadwater Farm Community Centre<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Present:</span></b> Irene Lee and Brian Scott
(Friends of Grahame Lee); Martin Burrows (Back To Earth and FLR); Ray Swain,
Dave Morris and Joan Curtis (all Friends of Lordship Rec); Michael
Loughnane, Paul Ely and Luisa Baker (all Recreation Services); Michael Bury
(BTCV); <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Apologies:</span></b> Helen
Steel (FLR and RS); Caroline Jepson (FLR), Su Jolly (BWF Centre); Anna Thomas
(Maze West Residents Association), Anne Gray (West Green Residents Association)<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>1. Minutes of Last Meeting </span></b>(20<sup><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>th</span></font></sup> October 2008).<br>
<br>
The minutes were agreed with one amendment. Under item 3.3 (GLA Majors
Priority Parks Award) £1.2 million should have read one to two million pounds.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>2. New Playground<br>
<br>
</span></b>Paul Ely reported that original budget has now been judged
insufficient to allow the construction of the new playground to go ahead in
accordance with the original design. Therefore, work will not now start
next February as was envisaged. The council has asked the
architects to redesign elements of the natural play area and has accordingly
drawn up a new timetable with work now due to commence in May with a view to
the new playground being in use before the start of the school summer holidays
in late July. Luisa Baker is due to meet with the architects in a
few days time to discuss the new timetable and aspects of the redesign which
hopefully will once again involve liaison with the Natural Play people. The
Friends expressed a certain degree of concern that a playground will not be in
use during a large part of the summer.<br>
<br>
It had been noted that the most recent plans for the playground showed changes
to the original design. Concern was expressed that the originally agreed plan
for a ‘desire line’ path between the paddling pool and the play
equipment may need to be re-instated. Paul accepted that changes had been made
and promised to re-investigate the design. <br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>3. New Tree Planting<br>
<br>
</span></b>Planting by the Friends will go ahead as planned i.e. on 30<sup><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>th</span></font></sup> November. The
Friends have secured a grant for this of £500 from It’s Your Community
Fund. As previously requested by Paul, a log will be kept for the benefit of
the HLF of all volunteers assisting in this project. To this end Luisa
will draw up a template to help log all work carried out by volunteers on Rec projects.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>4. Tree relocations - Millennium Ring
and <st1:place w:st="on">Moselle</st1:place> memorial plantation<br>
<br>
</span></b>The Forum has been in agreement for some considerable time that
there is a necessity to relocate the Millennium Trees from the south side of
the Rec to the northwest corner. Paul confirmed that this matter had been
discussed at the Design Team Meeting on 28<sup><font size=1><span
style='font-size:7.5pt'>th</span></font></sup> October and said that action
should be taken sooner rather than later, ideally by late spring in order to
minimise potential damage.<br>
<br>
Dave Morris however pointed out that the Tree Trust were still concerned over
the relocation of the trees, and any potential damage to them that may happen
during relocation. Everyone present hoped we could work with the Trust over the
improvements to the Rec including all the additional tree planting, the
Woodland etc. <br>
<br>
There was, in addition, a brief discussion on the general matter of tree
relocation in the Rec. Irene Lee voiced the concerns of the Friends of
Graham Lee with regard to the potential removal of up to 50% of the trees in the
memorial plantation as a result of the proposed restoration of the <st1:place
w:st="on">Moselle</st1:place> river. FOGL expressed the hope that, as
specified in the Masterplan, every effort would be made to relocate any removed
trees to one particular area and not to have them scattered throughout the
Rec. This would help to ensure that the memorial plantation would
maintain a tangible identity. Paul added that it was the council’s policy
not to lose trees from its parks.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>5. Back To Earth projects<br>
<br>
</span></b>Martin Burrows updated the forum on the progress of B2E projects in
the BWF centre and the Rec. Martin said that interest in these
projects continues to grow. The weekly local kitchen sessions and the Food
Co-op are going well, but more volunteers are required to help with the Co-op
market days. A Local Food application, if successful, will result in a
more permanent feature in April, but Martin stressed that he needs a lot more
support applications.<br>
<br>
It was decided to discuss the Environmental Centre and City Farm as a separate
item.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>6. Environmental Centre and City
Farm<br>
<br>
a. City Farm</span></b> As noted at item 2.6. in the
minutes of the previous meeting, and re-emphasised by Paul, the HLF had
notified the council that it does not consider the planned siting of the City
Farm by the Lordship Lane Gates to be suitable. This had led to a great deal of
discussion among the LRUF, Friends and the Council, including meetings with HLF
reps. Paul reported that the HLF had appointed an additional expert advisor to
visit the park and assess the various site options. His strongly held view at
that visit had been that the South East field by <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address
w:st="on">Freedom Road</st1:address></st1:Street> was the best location.<br>
<br>
Despite ongoing attachment to the original preference for the front entrance,
Paul explained that a suitable alternative site must be agreed asap if we are
to avoid risking losing HLF support for the whole regeneration of the Rec. The
2 main alternative options to the main entrance had been the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">North West</st1:place></st1:State> corner of the main field, and the
South East field. The Friends had discussed these sites at length and could not
resolve which in their view was the better alternative. <br>
<br>
We again discussed this matter. Both alternative sites have pros and cons.
However, the NW corner was not directly accessible. Martin agreed to
investigate the possibility of the Council ‘adopting’ the private
road behind the shops and houses.<br>
<br>
The SE field location was discussed in much detail. There were concerns
that the boggy nature of the ground would need investigating and works costed
taking this into consideration. There was also the issue of access via <st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Freedom Road</st1:address></st1:Street> and
the W$ bus route.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>b. Environmental Centre
[EC] </span></b>In addition to housing the Mothers and Toddlers
Group the EC needs to accommodate an Environmental Education Centre for schools
etc., provide adequate space and free access for the Friends, plus a café and
toilets and possibly a small library and resource base. The Friends group
were keen for there to be access to the public toilets directly from the
outside (a design issue), and also at times when the building is unstaffed (a
management issue). Paul added that the current council policy on public toilets
is that they will be locked at times when they are not staffed. Luisa will be
liaising with the architects over the design of the EC.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>c. Both</span></b> Paul
stated we need to work quickly towards agreement on both the above sites,
taking into account the drainage problems and other key outstanding
points. He outlined three fundamental issues: <br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>i. Capital costs </span></i>It
is important to generate adequate funding and stay within budget.<i><span
style='font-style:italic'> </span></i>£800.000 for EC and £370.000 for the City
Farm certainly presents a considerable challenge. Martin expressed
confidence that match funding could be raised.<br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>ii. Space</span></i>
Concerns were raised by the Friends at the size of the EC building which will
be four times the size of the present. They also were concerned at the proposed
scale of the Farm which was much larger than originally anticipated. They
wanted these facilities to enhance but not dominate the park. They also were
concerned that all the facilities be practical to manage, and be open to the
public 7 days a week. Martin responded that the scale of the Farm depended upon
the location and that the size could not be determined until the siting of the
EC and City Farm is finalised. In his view the City Farm, for example,
needed to be viable and attractive to visitors. One suggestion floated was to
save space and management costs by reducing the number of larger animals in
favour of wormeries and aquariums etc, whilst maintaining educational
benefits. <br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>iii. Maintenance and Running Costs.</span></i>
This was not discussed in detail, with the exception of the matter of public
toilet management as outlined above.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>7. HLF and the regeneration plans<br>
<br>
</span></b>We also need to remember that planning permission must be secured
for any new developments, and the match funding must be in place. Paul
emphasised also how important it is to demonstrate to the HLF that there is
real encouragement to increase the level of volunteering and participation in
Rec projects. The Friends stressed the importance of a good flow of
information to them and the LRUF, and continuing consultation, as part of Rec
development.<br>
<br>
We need to raise match funding of £2.4 million in the next 12 months. The
council is developing a strategy to identify sources of funding, including from
the Council itself. Paul added that if we get the GLA funding (via
the ‘vote’ see 14 below) it can go to any area or project in
the Rec.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>8. Audience Development Workshop<br>
<br>
</span></b>Dave and Paul (and 18 other key partners) had attended a development
workshop under the framework of “Not for the Likes of You” for the
development of increased and more diverse usage of the Rec. Paul passed
around notes from this workshop, with recommendations.<br>
<br>
The Audience Development Plan is an action plan aimed at identifying interest
groups with the principle of getting more people involved in matters concerning
the Rec. Paul added that he was keen for additional, concerned groups to
get involved in the LRUF.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>9. <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address
w:st="on">339 Lordship Lane</st1:address></st1:Street> Building Site<br>
<br>
</span></b>Luisa has written to Andrew Cusack (LBH Legal Services). She’s
awaiting a response re what legal action is appropriate over problems with
encroachment etc.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>10. Utility Works Gas and
Water<br>
<br>
</span></b>Michael Loughnane reported that bills have been sent to utility
companies regarding unfinished or problematic work they did in the south west
corner of the Rec.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>11. <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Woodland</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<br>
</span></b>Ray Swain told the forum that the Commemoration Event on 16<sup><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>th</span></font></sup> November organised
by the Friends (for those killed in the WW2 air raid shelter in the park) had
been very well supported with over 70 people attending the event by the
woodland. A report from the Friends giving full details of the event was handed
out at the meeting. There had been speeches from families of those killed, one
of the survivors, reps from emergency and support services, and the Mayor of
Haringey, Alan Dobbie. The Mayor had confirmed that he would support the
planned establishment of a memorial bridge in the Rec. The Friends launched a
fund to help raise money for the bridge (including a plaque) and there was
discussion as to how best to publicise this, including an article in a Spurs
match programme. [Now done!] <br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>12. <st1:place w:st="on">Lake</st1:place><br>
<br>
</span></b>Mike Bury notified the meeting that the Friends and BTCV had been
discussing the problem of subsidence on the island for some time. BTCV now
propose to rectify the issue by temporarily draining the lake and using the
silt to build up the sides of the island. He said that this could cost £10.000
as opposed to the previous estimate from Verdant Solutions of £8.500. The
lake sub group will look into areas of funding. This work can only be
carried out during the winter months and will not now happen until next winter.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>13. Pedestrian Counters<br>
<br>
</span></b>Poles supporting monitors purely for counting (not photographing!)
the number of pedestrians entering and leaving the Rec have been erected at all
entrances. Luisa reported that there had been a slight problem with one
sensor which had been pointing in the wrong direction. This is being rectified.
It was agreed to remove the one erected by the entrance to the woodland as
unnecessary clutter. It was agreed that it is important to bring to the LRUF
any future proposals for works affecting areas of the Rec.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>14. Friends of Lordship Rec AGM<br>
<br>
</span></b>This was reported to have been well attended and lively.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>15. GLA Funding<br>
<br>
</span></b>There are two ‘pots’ of money available. One is
for one to two million pounds, which is subject to a mayoral decision.
The allocation of the other award, for £400.000, is to be decided by public
vote. Anyone residing in a London Borough is eligible to vote for any
park on the list irrespective of whether it is in the local borough. The
method of voting will be through the internet, one vote per person, or texting.
Luisa said that e-mails will shortly be sent out giving details. It was agreed
that she and Dave work together on this. Votes must be cast by 30<sup><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>th</span></font></sup> January 2009.<br>
<br>
Paul urged maximum publicity throughout the borough, through local publications
and newsletter and all groups involved in events and activities in the Rec. The
Friends had agreed to back this, but were concerned not to promote
‘competition’ between parks (all of whom no doubt need
resources) they saw it more as a ‘referendum’ demonstrating
mass public support for our efforts and plans for the Rec. Martin expressed the
view that an exclusive internet voting system places poorer areas like
Tottenham a disadvantage.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>16. National Conference<br>
<br>
</span></b>Dave, Luisa and Paul had recently attended a National Conference in <st1:place
w:st="on">Nottingham</st1:place> on the ‘Community in Open Spaces’.
It was attended by approximately 100 representatives from local Councils, but
not many ‘friends’ groups. Dave raised issues about the Rec
at the event, and also the need for greater funding generally for <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>’s
green spaces.<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>17. Next meeting<br>
<br>
</span></b>The date for the next LRUF Meeting was set for 6.30 pm on Monday 12<sup><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>th</span></font></sup> January 2009 in the
Broadwater Farm Community Centre.<o:p></o:p></p>
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